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So Stargate SG-1 comes out, an ensemble show with an emphasis on the friendship between Jack O'Neil and Daniel Jackson. Slashers being slashers, Jack and Daniel get slashed. But the producers get wise to this and downplay scenes between the two because they're homophobic. At least, that's the accusation I heard.

Then Stargate Atlantis comes out. Still an ensemble cast (moreso than SG-1, even), with a buddy-movie emphasis on Shepherd and McKay. Nothing new there... Star Trek was all about Kirk, Spock, and McCoy; Wild Wild West had Jim and Artemis; Starsky & Hutch had... what were their names again? Never mind. But now fandom hates on Stargate Atlantis for focusing their show on two men, to the neglect of the POC and women on the show. I'm sure you can find all the meta you can stomach on this with a quick intarwebs search.

Is it just me, or can the Stargate guys not win? If they make a show about two men, it's because they're racist or sexist. But if they don't make the show about two men, they're homophobic.

Date: 2008-03-20 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] galamb-borong.livejournal.com
Are they having canon sex, or are they just two guys?

Personally, I'm not a part of Stargate fandom, and was a little surprised to find out how massive it was when I became active in fannish circles. To me it was always "that show you watch when you're stuck at home at 11AM on a weekday morning and there's nothing else on; not even The Power Puff Girls".

Date: 2008-03-20 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seriousfic.livejournal.com
Just two guys.

Of course, TPTB say Ronon and Teyla aren't having sex either, so obviously they can't be trusted. ;)

Date: 2008-03-20 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyoneill.livejournal.com
I'm not in the fandom so this is all new to me, but being a huge Sam/Jack fan I never saw SG1 as a buddy show. Eye of the beholder, I guess. :)

Date: 2008-03-20 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seriousfic.livejournal.com
I know how odd this sounds, considering how Atlantis has such a big ensemble cast (you couldn't have Lorne or Zelenka and so on on SG-1), SG-1 was much more of an ensemble when it came to the main cast than Atlantis is. It always seemed to me that Teal'c and Sam just got more to do and to think and to feel than Ronon and Teyla do.

You can't please everyone...

Date: 2008-03-21 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morjana.livejournal.com
and some fans would complain if you hung them with a new rope.

Morjana

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