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I've been on a bit of a Bond kick lately, since my library has a number of the John Gardner novels in stock and they came out with a new Goldeneye (not like the old new Goldeneye, where it has nothing to do with Goldeneye and this is a new guy who like has a robot eye that's colored gold? Or something? Jesus...). And it seems as if the new movie has most of the classic Bond roles filled, if Naomie Harris is going to turn out to be Moneypenny. Well, good on them. As refreshing as Casino Royale was, a Bond movie without the Bond crew is like a Spider-Man movie without the Daily Bugle or Mary-Jane Watson (wait, they're doing what?).

I've made a few comments over who I would've dream-casted in the roles, so hell, why not put them in one place?

Richard Ayoade as Q



As I pointed out a few months back, one of the problems with making Moneypenny a black woman is that you're making the secretary who even James Bond won't fuck into your main PoC. Even with the best intentions, it's Martha Jones all over again. But having Q, the brilliant inventor, be black? That's actually semi-responsible even.

I saw around the internet a suggestion that Ralph Fiennes play a sociopathic Q who's unfit for fieldwork, so they stick him in Q Department. That's a bit too grim and gritty for my tastes, because c'mon, Lord Voldemort as Major Boothroyd? God. But having Ayoade!Q be a bit too into his work would be okay for comedic purposes. After all, someone who spends all day thinking up flamethrower shoes can't be all that right in the head and wacky exasperation with 007's antics was Llewelyn's thing.

Catherine Tate as Moneypenny



Yeah, you knew I was going to use that picture. It'd just be fun to have Tate around as the woman who won't screw around with Bond, just because they're not that into each other. I guess that's what their old dynamic was, but they played it too far and ended up making Moneypenny a little pathetic? I mean, the 30th time you jokingly ask someone out, it comes off as desperate.

I guess conventional wisdom would be to make Moneypenny a lesbian, but I feel like that's a bridge too far. A "gay Jimmy Olsen," if you will. (Besides, if you want a gay woman in James Bond, it should be Kate Beckinsale as 005, Bond's partner who competes with him for the Bond girl du jour, as seen in the screenplay I wrote when I was 18, Diamonds Are For Murder.) Just have her be a woman who doesn't want to get involved with a super-damaged-goods, almost-dies-every-day, functional alcoholic with admittedly nice abs. There must be some out there. They can still tease each other, and hey, with Tate it'll actually be funny instead of "hey, they're really talking about penises. On with the movie."

Michael Caine as M

No picture. You should know what Michael Caine looks like by now.

Nothing against Dame Judi Dench, she's a Dame after all, but given the "no sacred cows" attitude of the Craig era, it'd make sense for her to leave, since at this point she's a loving mother figure to Bond. Yeah, lotta conflict there. Don't fridge her, but say she takes the hit for a mission gone bad and retires. It makes things personal for Bond in an organic way, better than killing off yet another of his friends. He's not in it for revenge, he's out to vindicate his friend's good name, so now he's motivated and he can take a moment to seduce the woman in the cast with the most ridiculous name.

So here's where Caine comes in, playing the new M... someone a bit closer to the Ian Fleming one. I'd picture him as an old 00 agent who's worked his way up the ranks--basically, the Sean Connery Bond if he'd aged in real time, so he can give monologues about the dangers of a revitalized SMERSH or whatever. You could have him be the mentor or someone who comes down hard on Bond, or both. Plus, Michael Caine ordering Daniel Craig to go kill someone would be the most badass British thing to happen since someone actually named Benedict Cumberbatch was cast to play Sherlock Holmes. Nothing that British will happen again until Imogen Poots is cast as the Doctor in 2020... but perhaps I've said too much...

Date: 2011-11-29 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rdfox.livejournal.com
I do recall that Lois Maxwell (the original movie Moneypenny) said that she always played the character as having been in basic MI6 training along with Bond, and that the two of them had had a torrid affair during it, but split up amicably at the end of training, because they knew they'd never have a chance to make a real go of it, with each one having a different career path ahead.

So it was more a couple of old lovers who still flirt and banter, but not seriously, just remembering the "good old days," than a case of her resisting Bond's advances.

Date: 2011-11-29 06:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seriousfic.livejournal.com
I think that was out the window by the time in Die Another Day when Moneypenny used virtual reality to have 'Bond' feel her up.

Date: 2011-11-29 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcity.livejournal.com
The what now? Die Another Day? No such movie. Doesn't exist. Nope. Even if it did exist, and it had Halle Berry in a bikini and nigh-unflappable hair, it didn't exist.

Seriously, that scene was just pure fanservice.

Date: 2011-11-30 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rdfox.livejournal.com
Maxwell's last appearance in the role was either "A View to a Kill" or "The Living Daylights"; after that, it was an actress who wasn't in her 60s playing Moneypenny, so that was definitely gone by the time they got to DAD.

I still prefer Maxwell's version, though; it makes Moneypenny a much better character, in my opinion.

Date: 2011-11-29 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcity.livejournal.com
>Naomie Harris is going to turn out to be Moneypenny

I can just tell someone is going to add that to TVTropes Unfortunate Implications page. "A black woman who pursues a white man who flirts with her, but sleeps with white women? RACIST!"

>As I pointed out a few months back, one of the problems with making Moneypenny a black woman is that you're making the secretary who even James Bond won't fuck into your main PoC.

Oh, yeah, I remember that. Totally didn't forget. *cough*

>Yeah, you knew I was going to use that picture. It'd just be fun to have Tate around as the woman who won't screw around with Bond, just because they're not that into each other. I guess that's what their old dynamic was, but they played it too far and ended up making Moneypenny a little pathetic? I mean, the 30th time you jokingly ask someone out, it comes off as desperate.

I like the idea of MP teasing Bond while she clearly has a love life of her own. At one point, her boyfriend shows up as Bond is on his way out, and he clearly feels slightly inadequate. Tate chastises him after Bond leaves for being jealous. He makes a "threesome" or "sister" joke. Ha ha.

>Nothing that British will happen again until Imogen Poots is cast as the Doctor in 2020... but perhaps I've said too much...

The conceit is that she's actually male, just a really good crossdresser. That is essentially the only way to make that scenario more British.

Date: 2011-12-09 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmonq (from livejournal.com)
The light flirting between Moneypenny & Bond meant to indicate not that they weren't that into each other but that they were in fact perfect for each other. She was the type of woman he'd settle the fuck down for. Not the modern-ish version (Um, Post-Dalton) but the Moore/Connery version. In other words Catherine Tate would suck. Good job with the others, though

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