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Nov. 12th, 2010 02:47 pmIt's gone viral. Now I'm starting to picture YJ-era Kon/Cassie as AVPM Harry/Ginny. I also got reblogged by "Tits I Like." Finally, I have arrived.
So I was thinking about Batman movies. I'm sure we're all pretty excited about The Dark Knight Rises, even if the OCD sufferers among us wish they would change it to Batman Rises (SYMMETRY!!!). Lotta talk about who the villain's gonna be, what actresses will be in it, who Tom Hardy will play (my source says he's gonna to play himself. He's just gonna stay at Wayne Manor, talking about how much Star Trek: Nemesis sucked. "It was supposed to be my big break, but it broke me!").
( You should know if you friend me, I can go on when I talk about Batman. )
Of course, it's a bit pointless to discuss villains when clearly whoever's chosen is going to fit to Nolan's theme rather than the other way around. The Joker was inevitable, and Ra's al Ghul was pretty intuitive. Catwoman is the next big part of the Batman universe that Nolan hasn't filled out yet, but like I said, it's hard to see her carrying a movie all by herself. Whoever's next isn't going to be there because he's popular.
No matter how well that worked out for Spider-Man 3.
Thematically, what I'd like to see is Batman coming full circle. He's become Batman, he's resigned himself to always being Batman, now it's time for him to make peace with that. End the trilogy on a note of hope, that even though he can never win, there's a victory just in fighting. And that means Dick Grayson.
Not Robin. Let's face it, most audiences don't want to see a little kid in short-shorts beating up criminals. But just Dick being orphaned, Bruce adopting him, and making the transition from traumatized orphan to father figure. Plus killing the Graysons is a great way to upp the stakes emotionally without fridging someone Bruce cares about. You can even imply Dick will become Robin at the end, after a lot of training and growing up.
Okay, then Nolan's done with the franchise. So let the series rest for a while, do a sort of time jump with a Teen Titans movie showing a grown-up Dick (I'm going to get some weird Google hits from that) going from Robin to Nightwing. Get a new director to go in and do Batman in a way that's a bit more fantastical. Not all out Tim Burton, more... Matthew Vaughn. There are lots of great villains that just don't work inside Nolan's universe, and we can't just turn all of them into a guy in a leather trenchcoat. First movie, Bruce meets Jason, tries to turn him into Robin, but he's a little shit and he dies. I know A Death In The Family wasn't that hot shit, storytelling wise...
You can't tell me the president of Iran would make the Joker his U.N. ambassador. What next, would he deny the Holocaust?
But dropping a dead Robin into some conflict would really give it an edge. Next movie, Tim Drake, movie after that, Under The Hood (the animated movie had a much better explanation for Jason's return than the comics, one that would work well with Talia al Ghul as a femme fatale playing everyone against each other). Hell, have Jason kill Tim's father, that would be much better than Identity Crisis. You've got yourself a great little trilogy which, yeah, would be centered around the Batman-Robin relationship, but after three movies, you'd need something to shake Batman up a bit. There's all this flawed material in the comics that's full of potential, maybe it just needs a little hindsight to turn into a classic.
Anyway, never going to happen, but I'd watch it.
So I was thinking about Batman movies. I'm sure we're all pretty excited about The Dark Knight Rises, even if the OCD sufferers among us wish they would change it to Batman Rises (SYMMETRY!!!). Lotta talk about who the villain's gonna be, what actresses will be in it, who Tom Hardy will play (my source says he's gonna to play himself. He's just gonna stay at Wayne Manor, talking about how much Star Trek: Nemesis sucked. "It was supposed to be my big break, but it broke me!").
( You should know if you friend me, I can go on when I talk about Batman. )
Of course, it's a bit pointless to discuss villains when clearly whoever's chosen is going to fit to Nolan's theme rather than the other way around. The Joker was inevitable, and Ra's al Ghul was pretty intuitive. Catwoman is the next big part of the Batman universe that Nolan hasn't filled out yet, but like I said, it's hard to see her carrying a movie all by herself. Whoever's next isn't going to be there because he's popular.
No matter how well that worked out for Spider-Man 3.
Thematically, what I'd like to see is Batman coming full circle. He's become Batman, he's resigned himself to always being Batman, now it's time for him to make peace with that. End the trilogy on a note of hope, that even though he can never win, there's a victory just in fighting. And that means Dick Grayson.
Not Robin. Let's face it, most audiences don't want to see a little kid in short-shorts beating up criminals. But just Dick being orphaned, Bruce adopting him, and making the transition from traumatized orphan to father figure. Plus killing the Graysons is a great way to upp the stakes emotionally without fridging someone Bruce cares about. You can even imply Dick will become Robin at the end, after a lot of training and growing up.
Okay, then Nolan's done with the franchise. So let the series rest for a while, do a sort of time jump with a Teen Titans movie showing a grown-up Dick (I'm going to get some weird Google hits from that) going from Robin to Nightwing. Get a new director to go in and do Batman in a way that's a bit more fantastical. Not all out Tim Burton, more... Matthew Vaughn. There are lots of great villains that just don't work inside Nolan's universe, and we can't just turn all of them into a guy in a leather trenchcoat. First movie, Bruce meets Jason, tries to turn him into Robin, but he's a little shit and he dies. I know A Death In The Family wasn't that hot shit, storytelling wise...
You can't tell me the president of Iran would make the Joker his U.N. ambassador. What next, would he deny the Holocaust?
But dropping a dead Robin into some conflict would really give it an edge. Next movie, Tim Drake, movie after that, Under The Hood (the animated movie had a much better explanation for Jason's return than the comics, one that would work well with Talia al Ghul as a femme fatale playing everyone against each other). Hell, have Jason kill Tim's father, that would be much better than Identity Crisis. You've got yourself a great little trilogy which, yeah, would be centered around the Batman-Robin relationship, but after three movies, you'd need something to shake Batman up a bit. There's all this flawed material in the comics that's full of potential, maybe it just needs a little hindsight to turn into a classic.
Anyway, never going to happen, but I'd watch it.
