Terminator 1x01 and 1x02
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seriousficOkay, so no one's going to be calling it "The Sarah Connor Chronicles," are they? Because they make it sound like it's one of those Animorphs-wannabe young teen novels.
So, this is taking place in T3 continuity, but after history has been changed so that Judgment Day is still up in the air. Of course, in T3 Judgment Day happened in 2004 and in SCC it hasn't/won't happen until 2007/2008. To-may-to, to-mah-to... And the Christian Bale/John Connor movie is supposed to take place after Judgment Day, so I'm guessing SCC is an alternate timeline to the movies post-T2 but taking into account events in T3... kinda like when you're reading a Choose Your Own Adventure Novel and you turn to page 13 and you cut the blue wire and the bomb blows up, but if you go through a completely different narrative branch and cut the blue wire you'll go to page 45 and save the day?
Okay, probably nothing at all like that.
Personally, I see a lot of potential, but also a lot of "this could go downhill, fast." The idea of a time war between Skynet and the resistance is cool, depending on how it's handled, and since Cameron only answers to the adult John Connor (and maybe Christian Bale)... and she obviously has no compunctions about killing people, that could set up a nice conflict between John becoming the leader who has to be (an ends justify the means type) and Sarah wanting him to be an actual good person. Or not.
But then the entire ambiguous!Terminator/killing innocent people problem is averted when it turns out Escobar is in bed with the feds... weak. C'mon, don't be afraid to Go There, show.
And in previous movies, time travel always seemed to be aimed. Travelers would show up in isolated surroundings, but close enough to habitation to grab clothes and supplies. In SCC, they show up in the middle of a crowded freeway... when they travel forward in time. Which is supposed to be impossible, so either time travel technology has improved because of mumblemumble or someone isn't paying attention. I guess what I'm saying is that I'm hoping there's a plan instead of TPTB just pulling stuff out of their ass as they go.
Story-wise, the second episode was a vast improvement over the first. Sarah Connor went from being bitchy and unreasonable (her first action is to abandon her fiance... endearing) to a strong woman, and John went from being a wishy-washy momma's boy to actually having some initative and the issues you'd expect from a kid who's been through what he has.
I do want to know why Chromartie bothered to put a gun in his leg. Dude, you have a bag! (Of course, going by T3, all the Terminators are powered by fuel cells that cause tiny nuclear explosions when damaged. So you'd think one of the Terminators would just walk up to Connor, shake his head, then go 'splodey. Guess because then the movie would be over).
And I know I shouldn't ship, but Tin Man? Sarah already has a pet name for her girl. After the Sam&Dean focus of Supernatural and the McKay&Shepherd focus of SGA, it's kinda refreshing to have a dual-female (well, female and female-shaped robot) series. Oh, and there needs to be fic about Cameron meeting a Cylon. Any of them, really.
So, this is taking place in T3 continuity, but after history has been changed so that Judgment Day is still up in the air. Of course, in T3 Judgment Day happened in 2004 and in SCC it hasn't/won't happen until 2007/2008. To-may-to, to-mah-to... And the Christian Bale/John Connor movie is supposed to take place after Judgment Day, so I'm guessing SCC is an alternate timeline to the movies post-T2 but taking into account events in T3... kinda like when you're reading a Choose Your Own Adventure Novel and you turn to page 13 and you cut the blue wire and the bomb blows up, but if you go through a completely different narrative branch and cut the blue wire you'll go to page 45 and save the day?
Okay, probably nothing at all like that.
Personally, I see a lot of potential, but also a lot of "this could go downhill, fast." The idea of a time war between Skynet and the resistance is cool, depending on how it's handled, and since Cameron only answers to the adult John Connor (and maybe Christian Bale)... and she obviously has no compunctions about killing people, that could set up a nice conflict between John becoming the leader who has to be (an ends justify the means type) and Sarah wanting him to be an actual good person. Or not.
But then the entire ambiguous!Terminator/killing innocent people problem is averted when it turns out Escobar is in bed with the feds... weak. C'mon, don't be afraid to Go There, show.
And in previous movies, time travel always seemed to be aimed. Travelers would show up in isolated surroundings, but close enough to habitation to grab clothes and supplies. In SCC, they show up in the middle of a crowded freeway... when they travel forward in time. Which is supposed to be impossible, so either time travel technology has improved because of mumblemumble or someone isn't paying attention. I guess what I'm saying is that I'm hoping there's a plan instead of TPTB just pulling stuff out of their ass as they go.
Story-wise, the second episode was a vast improvement over the first. Sarah Connor went from being bitchy and unreasonable (her first action is to abandon her fiance... endearing) to a strong woman, and John went from being a wishy-washy momma's boy to actually having some initative and the issues you'd expect from a kid who's been through what he has.
I do want to know why Chromartie bothered to put a gun in his leg. Dude, you have a bag! (Of course, going by T3, all the Terminators are powered by fuel cells that cause tiny nuclear explosions when damaged. So you'd think one of the Terminators would just walk up to Connor, shake his head, then go 'splodey. Guess because then the movie would be over).
And I know I shouldn't ship, but Tin Man? Sarah already has a pet name for her girl. After the Sam&Dean focus of Supernatural and the McKay&Shepherd focus of SGA, it's kinda refreshing to have a dual-female (well, female and female-shaped robot) series. Oh, and there needs to be fic about Cameron meeting a Cylon. Any of them, really.
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Date: 2008-01-17 02:28 am (UTC)I saw it and I thought that the series had potential... it seemed cast fairly well, but most of the potential seemed pissed away by poor writing that seemed just plain lazy more than anything else, in many cases.
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Date: 2008-01-17 04:35 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-17 07:09 am (UTC)In the original movie, when asked "How are you supposed to get back home?" Reese answers, "I don't." They blew up the time machine after he went through it. "Nobody goes home, nobody else comes through." (Which implies that if they hadn't destroyed the machine they could have retrieved him....)
I'm enjoying the series so far, but it could easily go off the rails. Too much time travel, too many other players from the future, etc. (I'm told that the series isn't going to be as violent as the movies--the Terminators aren't as ruthlessly bloodthirsty 'cause it's television. But we'll see.)
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Date: 2008-01-17 01:51 pm (UTC)Of course, I suppose the issue with that is, if you can travel forward in time, why can't you just go back, build or buy or steal a nuclear warhead, and send it forward to wherever SkyNet keeps its main data core or whatever? (Prior to T3 where SkyNet didn't have one.) Or, similarly, SkyNet just send some Terminators back to do the same thing and send it forward into the middle of the human resistance camp?
Time travel forward just seems to open up a few too many plot holes.