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Ratings Note/Warnings: Sexual content which does and doesn't dovetail neatly with the content some readers may find to be disturbing.

How is that at all helpful in "warning" the reader? There's not even a rating. Sexual content, okay, do people make-out in the backrow of a theater or are they gang-raped? No indication.

Damnit, is it really that hard to say "I like writing about young boys getting blown by authority figures, PS, everyone has capes"?

Date: 2010-06-02 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennyo.livejournal.com
You know the answer to that one.

Date: 2010-06-02 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seriousfic.livejournal.com
I just assume that at some point you'd be like "okay, I'm the 'kids getting blown by authority figures' lady" and make your peace of that. Not "I am telling DRAMA which happens to involve kiddy cumshots!!"

Date: 2010-06-02 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennyo.livejournal.com
Dude, if we're talking about the type of person I think we're talking about, you're dealing with raging hypocrites who are in massive denial about their psychosexual issues that they're too "fragile" to deal with honestly.

I mean, being honest would lead to feeling honestly bad, would alienate a bunch of fan-friends, and there'd be loss of status. Honest self-improvement is not always that great in comparison; sometimes you just want to be the popular bitch who writes stuff that makes you more popular.

Date: 2010-06-02 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azarias.livejournal.com
Thing is, I don't think there is a damned thing to be ashamed about when it comes to sexual fantasies. Seriously, I've just run down a list of depraved, immoral, and unhygienic acts one might fantasize about in dizzying combinations, and confirmed that as long as they either stay fantasy or only involve informed, consenting, adult participants, I don't care what anyone does with them. Write them, draw them, play dress-up -- be fruitful and multiply in your freaky, freaky way.

But Christ I wish fans would stop being coy about it. You're writing about people fucking! Often underaged people! Often non-consensually! If you're not having fun, why are you doing it? Either own your own brain, or give it to me for spare processing power. Seriously, my memory's crap. I could use an auxiliary.

Date: 2010-06-02 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rann.livejournal.com
I've noticed that while the yaoi fans are really bad about being coy, there will be the ones who write straight fanfic or whatnot who, rather than sort of peeking through the curtains about what they're writing, will attempt to justify it as some sort of thought exercise.

"Well, a great number of fans felt that the scene in the book where the annoying, useless heroine is captured by orcs for all of five minutes before she's rescued by the unstoppable killing machine that is the hero robbed the story of any true dramatic tension and failed to explore the possible repercussions of such a situation that a more thoughtful story might provide. The following is an attempt to flesh out the story and provide additional characterization and pathos by saying 'What if she got stuffed full of orc-cock instead?'"

Of course, I must admit that my sympathies are with them a little bit. People who write noncon adult-male-on-nonadult-male fanfic will still savage the holy hell out of someone that writes noncon adult-male-on-adult-female, it's possible this is simply a learned protective reflex.

I've been occasionally tempted to write my own "thought experiment", but as an actual experiment. First writing a story where a tough, virile guy rapes a straight guy, and it turns the straight guy into a moaning, pleading little cock-hungry subby. Then, once the reviews to that start coming in, write a story where a tough, virile guy rapes a lesbian, and it turns the lesbian into a moaning, pleading little cock-hungry subby, and see what happens with the reviews then.

Reporting in.

Date: 2010-06-02 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azarias.livejournal.com
Read it. (Translation: Ctrl + F + cock)

Eh. I mean ... eh. If you've really got a thing for dick, you can probably get off on it, but honestly it's just dicks going places dicks usually go in fanfic, just at higher word count and some of them are fifteen. Nothing particularly mockable, though it does feel like there was a checklist of kinks drawn up and followed to the letter.

Re: Reporting in.

Date: 2010-06-02 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seriousfic.livejournal.com
Well then damn, just give the pairing and be done with it. If the pairing says Bruce/Tim or whatever, I'll just assume it's chan. But what's with the ass-covering warning that doesn't warn for anything? It makes me want to get a sock puppet and go "agggh, you triggered me, now I am UNCLEAAAN~"

Re: Reporting in.

Date: 2010-06-02 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azarias.livejournal.com
As trigger warnings go, I suppose it's good enough. It pretty clearly warns that the author has chosen to be vague and won't let you know whether or not there are common triggers inside, which is really all anyone can ask for. Best policy in that case is to assume the answer is "yes" and move on. Twee, but it covers the minimum functionality required.

Date: 2010-06-02 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angel-gidget.livejournal.com
It strikes me as a catch-all phrase that a writer can apply to all their stories, be they NC-17 with XXX undertones or PG with R-rated subtext upon closer examination. Lazy, yet understandable. (Though why so lazy if you have the time to write a psychologically-probing smutfest that totals to the length of War and Peace? Dunno...)

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