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Hey, guys, you know that time in Morrison's New X-Men run when Emma hit on Scott and they started a psychic affair?

You may have thought that was consensual, what with there being no evidence to support it being anything but, but Emma really mind-raped Scott. SRSLY. A fangirl said so and she wouldn't lie, would she?

Look, I'm a big fan of the fan-wank. There's so much canon, and so much of it will be inevitably bad, that No-Prizes have gotten be won. But so long as you're fan-wanking THAT HARD, why not go all out? Emma and Scott never had an affair, it was all a ruse to fool... umm... Domino, who was secretly a Skrull that had infiltrated the X-Men. And Jean never died, she just left to infiltrate Voldemort's inner circle. Yeah. And Jean is going to come back and Emma is going to say "Thank God, I can stop pretending I'm having nonstop sex with Scott... he snores!" And Jean will say "Don't I know it!" And we'll freeze-frame on everyone laughing. Roll credits.

It literally astounds me how often these Emma/Scott bashings boomerang and hit Saint Jean. Take the wish to have Jean come back and get together with Scott. Reasonable? Yes. But apparently they won't be satisfied with that. They want Scott to drop Emma like a hot potato so he can get with Jean, WHO WAS THE ONLY WOMAN HE EVER LOVED. Really, now, how would that make them look?

Scott: JEAN! I was sharing a room with Emma, who I told repeatedly that I loved and actually built a life with, but that was all bullshit. I really love you, and she was just a convenient sperm receptacle when I got bored of solo masturbation.

Jean: That's so romantic! (smoochies)

Emma: So... I'm the most sympathetic one? So that's what it feels like. Don't quite like it.

And then there's this mind-rape thing. Given that a few issues later, Jean caught them together and was equally furious with both of them, how does that make Jean look?

Scott: Oh God! Emma raped me! It was horrible! (Horribly sexy)

Jean: Shut up! How dare you get raped! I hate you!

Some perspective, people!

Date: 2008-10-01 05:11 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The only true pairing is Emma/Jean -- hot female pyschics boinking each other non-stop is teh hot.

Date: 2008-10-01 07:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pendown.livejournal.com
Playing Devil's Advocate:
1: IIRC in the mental scene, Scott was saying no.
2: Emma is a fully fledged mind controller.

So a rape clause is just about workable - Scott doesn't know he's been raped because Emma is twisting his mind to not know.

Date: 2008-10-01 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seriousfic.livejournal.com
I find it hard to believe that Jean and the Professor, both of whom are more powerful than Emma and would be quick to believe the best of Scott (and the worst of Emma), wouldn't be able to find any evidence of tampering.

Date: 2008-10-01 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pendown.livejournal.com
Hard but not impossible. I'd say that sneakiness matters more than power for finding evidence - and in terms of sneakiness I'll back Emma. And it would be an eyerolling retcon (or possibly a wallbanging one) but comics do that fairly regularly.

Date: 2008-10-01 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prozacpark.livejournal.com
I love you! *fangirls*

Yeah, the Emma mindraping Scott is just...yeah. Canon has no evidence for it. However, canon does tell us that Scott cheats on his wives.

Jean, WHO WAS THE ONLY WOMAN HE EVER LOVED. Jean, WHO WAS THE ONLY WOMAN HE EVER LOVED.

This is, apparently, why it was okay and even right for Scott to cheat on Maddie since he left her for Jean. But the same cheating behavior pattern is not to be repeated when he's with his One True Love.

Scott: JEAN! I was sharing a room with Emma, who I told repeatedly that I loved and actually built a life with, but that was all bullshit. I really love you, and she was just a convenient sperm receptacle when I got bored of solo masturbation.

And unfortunately, that's very likely to happen if Jean is brought back. Like, when Maddie died? Scott's first response was pretty much, "I feel bad that she's dead, but she was just a replacement for you, Jean!"

Date: 2008-10-01 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] distractedone.livejournal.com
And unfortunately, that's very likely to happen if Jean is brought back.

If writers follow continuity, I don't think it will happen! Remember, Phoenix Endsong pretty much confirmed Scott would stay with Emma. <3

Date: 2008-10-01 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] distractedone.livejournal.com
Scott: Oh God! Emma raped me! It was horrible! (Horribly sexy)

Jean: Shut up! How dare you get raped! I hate you!


HAAAAH!!!!! He REALLY did say, "It's not what you think!!" He totally could have said, "Emma was raping me!!!"

Haah. Oh my gosh. Scott *totally* wanted Emma, though. Even the text SEEMED like it was noncon, it totally was consensual. Emma kept pushing for it, and Scott pushed back.

The people who want Scott to dump Emma and go back to Jean (if she ever does return) make no logical sense whatsoever. PHOENIX ENDSONG FRIGGIN' CONFIRMED HE WOULD STAY WITH EMMA. and the Jott'ers need to shutup

Date: 2008-10-02 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neotoma.livejournal.com
And it's not like Scott had ever abandoned his wife during an emotionally difficult period *before*, doncha know...

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