Rewatched Star Trek

[seriousfic]

Fun, even when you can't see the line for the next showing waiting outside as you leave. And scream "Kirk is Spock's father!" at them.

Things I Want For The Sequel

*More supporting character love. Nowadays the TOS crew is pretty lilly-white and Y-chromosome in comparison to more modern ensembles, so liven things up. Nurse Chapel, Number One (and yes, she needs to be there because there should be SOMEONE with experience on the bridge, movie), Yeoman Rand, M'Ress, Arex, Carol Marcus, Gaila, new characters... can there be a lesbian head of security who wears a wifebeater under her uniform and wields those groovy TOS phaser rifles? All for, say aye? All opposed? Thought so.

*Total fantard here, but Trelane versus Q in an interstellar chess match, with the Squire's Ent-A crew against Q's Ent-E crew. Because John DeLancie is just that great as Q that it'd be a shame to never see him in the movies or squaring off against the TOS crew, the Squire of Gothos is bugfuck crazy enough to correct Star Trek XI's villain deficiency, and let's face it, Nemesis was a piss-poor send-off to the TNG crew. Have them spend most of the movie fighting each other to preserve "their" timeline, with debate among both crews about if what they're doing is right, then at the end they realize they're being manipulated (with some hinting from Q), team up, and wreck Trelane's shit by destroying his power source. Possibly by having Kirk ask a computer about the meaning of love. And maybe with some classic City On The Edge Of Forever craziness of having the destruction of the Kelvin and the ensuing deviations somehow dooming the entire universe unless someone makes a painful sacrifice.

YES, I AM THAT FAN, SHUT UP, I WANT IT. Plus, it'd correct the whole canon hole in STXI of the Romulans sitting around for 25 years without the Time Cops doing jack shit to correct the timeline. Q did it for the lulz!

Plus, would Q have a chance to snark on the Organians? SHIT YES HE WOULD!

*Andorians and Tellarites. I love those crazy fuckers. CLAP IF YOU LOVE SHRAN.

*Harry Mudd. You know you want that jive-ass motherfucker to be all up in Enterprise's shit, until he turns out to happen to have the McGuffin necessary to save the day. WHAT.

Comments

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

Actually, more than that - if any vestige of Enterprise canon is still intact (and judging by the line about Admiral Archer's beagle, it's a good bet), then she willingly renounced a life as one of the true "masters" in her society, and was able to buck not only all sorts of sexist societal enculturation among her own people, but also to overcome the prejudices of the rest of the Federation (humans may not be racist toward other humans, but Bones' remarks show that, just as in the original series, racist attitudes toward certain non-humans are still tolerated), to become what appears to be the first and only Orion girl in Starfleet Academy history. AND YET, everyone writes her off. This would not be a "dumb" or a "weak" woman - she COULDN'T be, in order to achieve what she did.

I'm trying to think what role would best suit an Orion girl on ship - is there a rank specialty for "sociology"? Considering how well Orion girls are trained to seduce men of other cultures, I can see her having some native insights. Plus, it'd make sense that she'd be friends with Uhura (her specialty would cross over into Uhura's communications role) and Spock (hey, it's science).

[seriousfic.livejournal.com]

Given that the crew of the NX-01 Enterprise found out about Orion women running the Syndicate, I can only conclude that the stereotype persists because it's true in some or most cases, because by its very nature the Federation should run down inaccurate stereotypes quickly. Take a look at how quickly our culture has gone from "feet don't fail me now!" black characters in film to Will Smith. There's no way the Federation should be slower in phasing out prejudice than that.

So either "Orion slave girls" are the exception or there's a mob run by female capos passing themselves off as slave girls, which is more likely. Plus, it's the explanation that makes Enterprise less canon, which is always nice.

If she's roommates with Uhura, she's probably in some sort of communications-related department (they were also being given assignments together). Maybe some kind of proto-Troi counselor position, albeit much more useful when the emphasis is on figuring out civilizations upon first contact, getting the lay of the land from street smarts and slang, that kind of thing. Imagine her beaming over to meet and greet with a Klingon Bird of Prey, not being taken seriously, then reporting back with what family the Klingons are and what they're probably up to based on their current standing in the Empire.

I could also see her being friends with a Deltan (they could probably bond over unfair sexual stereotypes, because imagine all the Federation frat boys who'd try to get into Orion/Deltan pants. Which makes Kirk EVEN MORE of a mack daddy, because he pulled it off and went where no man had gone before) and one of those sentient cetaceans that serve on the Enterprise in the books, just because those guys are awesome. I mean, Enterprise has an aquarium deck? EFF YEAH.

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

Hm. You raise good points, but on the other hand, I like the Orion "slave girls" actually being the secret mob bosses, because it lets the Star Trek universe retain all those Barsoom! trappings, without any of the guilt of getting off to what amounts to a Gorean scenario.

So, would Gaila wear red, for communications, or blue, for science?

[seriousfic.livejournal.com]

So, would Gaila wear red, for communications, or blue, for science?

Isn't she required by Trek law to wear some kind of tight-fitting non-regulation catsuit that would never in a million years be worn on a real military vessel? Because she, uh... needs to keep her pheromones in check and an even slightly sensible uniform wouldn't work?

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

Fie upon you.

Starfleet miniskirts are sexier, and expose more skin, and when one of the character's sexier attributes is her green skin, that shit needs to be showed off. Red would be most flattering for her, since it'd make for the best contrast with her green skin (and compliment her red hair and lips), but sociology (or "xenopology," or whatever the future word is for her speciality) is more science. :(

[seriousfic.livejournal.com]

"Number One"-style turtleneck and long pants. Because she should wear something that would make people take her seriously (and you know she'd be wearing something ridiculously hot underneath).

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

Compromise - old-school one-piece miniskirt with long sleeves, which actually conceals more skin than movie!Uhura's midriff-exposing tanktop and miniskirt combo, but still shows off her skin in all the right areas, especially if it has that cushioned-but-loose sweaterneck opening like Nurse Chapel had.

And blue or red, man? I needs to know!

[seriousfic.livejournal.com]

Red, since as you said, Nurse Chapel will have the blue uniform covered. But with a black tanktop and briefs underneath for the very necessary, not at all gratuitous fanservice scene.

With the additional proviso that Orion women are bisexual and polygamous, since as long as you're doing a fanservice species, you might as well explore the implications of that fanservice. Like, if she's Kirk's fuckbuddy, does she still require an emotional commitment from him? Does she expect him to keep the relationship secret or public? How does a cross-culture relationship work?

In comparison, Uhura/Spock would be downright boring compared to independent Orion woman/womanizing Earthman.

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

But with a black tanktop sports bra and briefs thong underneath for the very necessary, not at all gratuitous fanservice scene.

Fixed.

With the additional proviso that Orion women are bisexual and polygamous [...]

Um, DUH.

[seriousfic.livejournal.com]

A thong? Damnit, man, show some restraint! The thong is for when she goes to Risa!

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

It would be a relatively modest thong. :P

[seriousfic.livejournal.com]

You can't mix these things around! If it's a thong, she should be wearing a half-cup bra, both red. If it's a sports bra (if not a tanktop), she should be wearing boy-cut panties.

Of course, either way she should keep on either a phaser holster or a shoulder-strapped tricorder.

[jlbarnett.livejournal.com]

It's a little sexist but I had this idea of Q and Q2 jumping through various time periods and Q2 wondering about the women's uniform. Q explains humanoid women(who aren't chattel or anything like that) inevitably frequently cycle through periods of "My body is a beautiful thing and it is mine, therefore I can display it however I want," to "I am more than my body, you will stop staring and objectifying me," to explain why they wore miniskirts as official uniforms future.