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seriousfic ([personal profile] seriousfic) wrote2012-02-27 12:39 pm

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Hey, I'm looking to write a book with a character who was abused as a child and I wondering if there are any books or movies y'all know of that are particularly realistic about the aftereffects of that sort of thing. Because I don't want to be "Well, here's a random character, how can I add pathos? I know, CHILD ABUSE! La la, MAN-PAIN!"

[identity profile] mcity.livejournal.com 2012-02-28 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
>the other always knew the game was rigged and festered with resentment and rage. The irreconcilability of these sides are what lead to Two-Face, and why he has to use the (now scarred and, thus, fair) coin.

Someone worked out that such a coin would be a bit off balance, and as such it would come up scarred more often. This was not intended by the writers, but it kinda works in the Nolanverse context, where Dent will "cheat" if he doesn't get what he wants the first time. ("Your driver.")

[identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com 2012-02-28 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I believe the first person to come up with the off-balance idea was Alan Grant in a silly Shadow of the Bat story from the late 90's. It's an interesting idea, but one that went entirely unexplored, and is thus meaningless. Considering how Harvey is fixated on duality and fairness, I'd really like to know how he's react to discovering that his own coin isn't fair. Depending on which version of Two-Face is being written, he can either see it as a perfect excuse to keep being evil, or it'll send him into a complete psychological and existential crisis.


And ugh, I can't begin to describe how much I hate a cheating Two-Face. Especially in TDK. It renders his newfound, inexplicable obsession with fairness moot, making him an instant hypocrite, and turning the coin into even more of a meaningless gimmick. I hate that Anton Chigurh's coin-flipping in No Country for Old Men was more fair and chilling than Harvey frickin' Dent's.

[identity profile] mcity.livejournal.com 2012-02-28 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
>It renders his newfound, inexplicable obsession with fairness moot, making him an instant hypocrite, and turning the coin into even more of a meaningless gimmick.

Remember, the Joker claims to represent chaos, but has no problem setting up complex plots to achieve that goal (which is one heck of a subtle joke). Dent probably honestly thinks he' still being "fair"; and he's just rationalizing it. After all, even if he shot Sal's driver, that doesn't necessarily mean Sal is going to die, right? He'll take his chances, just like everyone else.