http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/3407399.html?thread=116572199#cmt116572199 >"Dick" as an insult can't really be the same as "bitch" as an insult. I'm not saying that it's a particularly mature or well-reasoned thing to call a man, but seriously. Men as a gender rule over women, all other things being equal.
I love how people say they are against gendered language used as a slur, but when someone asks if they have the same problems with slurs against men as they do against women, they go on about how it's "different" without actually answering the question directly.
>These term come with baggage. It's bad form to try and claim that you can use them as insults without bringing that baggage along with you.
So, what, the terms used against women inherently have more "baggage" than those used against men? Does that make the male-gendered terms better, objectively?
>You would not have gotten a warning for "uppity dick". Mostly because men do not suffer from widespread discrimination and oppression just because they have a male body (though they may suffer from discrimination for mores specific reasons) and the expression "uppity dick" isn't built for the express purpose of reminding them their place as lower being.
I also love how every instance of this particular female-gendered slur is a slur against all women and their bodies, while a male-gendered slur specifically insulting them in terms of their sexual organs being a negative isn't. I think both the mods and question and I would agree than "cunt" should not be used as a slur, but she doesn't see any problem with "dick".
>If you call a guy a dick, it's not sexist. It's a gendered insult but it's not about denigrating a guy for being a guy (ew!). It simply doesn't have the same weight or history behind it.
I suppose I could draw a parallel between the historical and contemporary meanings of the word "gay", but that would require logic, not inconsistent principles based on mercurial personal beliefs masquerading as "rules".
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I see they're circling the mod-wagons. *repost
Date: 2011-11-06 12:58 pm (UTC)>"Dick" as an insult can't really be the same as "bitch" as an insult. I'm not saying that it's a particularly mature or well-reasoned thing to call a man, but seriously. Men as a gender rule over women, all other things being equal.
I love how people say they are against gendered language used as a slur, but when someone asks if they have the same problems with slurs against men as they do against women, they go on about how it's "different" without actually answering the question directly.
>These term come with baggage. It's bad form to try and claim that you can use them as insults without bringing that baggage along with you.
So, what, the terms used against women inherently have more "baggage" than those used against men? Does that make the male-gendered terms better, objectively?
>You would not have gotten a warning for "uppity dick". Mostly because men do not suffer from widespread discrimination and oppression just because they have a male body (though they may suffer from discrimination for mores specific reasons) and the expression "uppity dick" isn't built for the express purpose of reminding them their place as lower being.
I also love how every instance of this particular female-gendered slur is a slur against all women and their bodies, while a male-gendered slur specifically insulting them in terms of their sexual organs being a negative isn't. I think both the mods and question and I would agree than "cunt" should not be used as a slur, but she doesn't see any problem with "dick".
>If you call a guy a dick, it's not sexist. It's a gendered insult but it's not about denigrating a guy for being a guy (ew!). It simply doesn't have the same weight or history behind it.
I suppose I could draw a parallel between the historical and contemporary meanings of the word "gay", but that would require logic, not inconsistent principles based on mercurial personal beliefs masquerading as "rules".
Incidentally, even 4chan/co/ thinks SD is bad. 4CHAN. If I didn't have 4chan locked out of my computer, I'd post the link to DVG's post, just to see what they say.