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seriousfic ([personal profile] seriousfic) wrote2011-10-01 06:55 pm

Woo, the early 20th century, when everything was awesome!

Look, guys, Superman started off as a vaguely socialist vigilante (socialist means "arresting people who are breaking the law," right?) and Wonder Woman started off as a walking bondage fetish. Who cares if those are traits that have been phased out through decades of storytelling and experimentation, to become a character that is "popular" or "recognizable"? Every character should be like they are the very first time they're presented. That's why everyone hates shows where characters grow and change. Mention "character development" to any writer, you'll be lucky to get out of there without a split lip. Why do you think people watch Glee?

So, Batman should clearly kill criminals, with guns, and not have a Robin, since that's the way he started out. And James Bond should hate women, gays, and minorities, since that's the way he started out.

[identity profile] mymatedave.livejournal.com 2011-10-02 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
You know, sometimes I think you post things just to wind people up. If only I could think of some examples.
*sigh*

[identity profile] fengi.livejournal.com 2011-10-02 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Action #1 re-imagines the concept of Superman starting off as a vaguely socialist vigilante, which gives the character somewhere to go and seems quite contemporary given current events.

When it comes down to Golden Age, Silver Age, Foil Variant Cover Investment Bubble Age or Sue Dibney Is Raped And Murdered Age, I gotta go with the first two.

From what I'm reading, people embraced positive developments in terms of character, story and art (and printing quality) - if prior ages are now invoked, it's responding to aspects of the reboot which embody the worst of the 90s. With $2.99 for 22 pages, not one stand alone story and an uncertain continuity policy already setting up another crossover, I can see why folks may get nostalgic.

On some occasions originals were better. Every "adult" version of Captain Marvel makes C.C. Beck at his silliest seem like the apex of mature storytelling.

[identity profile] mcity.livejournal.com 2011-10-02 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
>Why do you think people watch Glee?

Sue and showtunes.

[identity profile] daniel basch-tetreault (from livejournal.com) 2011-10-03 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
As usual, there's an appropriate TVtropes term for this kind of thing.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EarlyInstallmentWeirdness

Obsessive fans of continuity should really know when to pick and choose which moments are worth keeping, and which to throw away. Too bad everybody keeps chucking out the fun stuff, since "respectable" art has serious themes. Here's a relevant comparision; when Steven Spielberg started making movies for the critics instead of his audiences, his popularity plumented.

Comic companies keep feeling that they've got to prove they're "relevant" to prove that comics are no longer just for kids, but they keep forgetting that potential audience left them when they showed no interest in telling any stories they felt personally invested or relateable to.